Today's podcast is co-hosted with Agroecologist David Hardwick at the first ever cane regenerative farming forum held in Ingham, Queensland. A key presenter and leader at the event was Simon Mattsson, who operates a 190 hectare property at Marion, 30 kilometers west of Mackay, producing sugarcane, soybeans and chickpeas in rotation, in a controlled traffic farming system. Simon is a Nuffield scholar and a passionate soil health advocator who believes the biggest difference between the really resilient successful farmers and the rest, is their ability to take advantage of nature's free resources, sunlight, rainfall, carbon and nitrogen. This is our after-dinner conversation with Simon Mattsson.